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« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2007, 09:50:49 PM »

the majority of the game wasnt inspired from greek mythology?.. is that why the 3 realms coexist, with no mention of afterlife and are reffered to as the underworld, overworld and sky world as opposed to heaven earth and hell? the main antagonist is medusa, pit is helped by zeus, each contains a labrynth like the myth, when he is given wings, at the end of the sequel he gets too close to the sun and loses his wings... hmm. nah coincedence eh?

much of it is based on greek mythology . however , much is not . to begin with , the title screen of the game is subtitles with "angel land story" . angels are not of greek origin but of biblical / judeo christian origin . it's true that the overworld and underworld are not referred to as heaven and hell , but neither are they refered to as as olympus and hades . i won't go into discussion of any game sequels , because i have only played the original game , but based only on the original , i can tell you the following :

these components of the game have no roots in greek mythology : palutena , the 3 sacred treasures , credit card , angels feathers , pencil , about 40 / 50 enemies , tombstones bear the christian cross , which is obviously not an element of greek mythology . the storyline also is not coherent with greek myth . icarus had nothing to do with medusa , who was killed by perseus . i'm running out of examples . i haven't played the game in a while .

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im no expert but the influences are pretty blatant.. i dont kno abt the judeo christian part of it so ill il let you call it a mix at best.

yes , of course it was a mix or i would have said "no part of the game was based on greek myth" . i'm not going to split hairs and fight over whether or not "most" of the game was . there's no absolute way to count points anyway (though , i think a quick read through the manual points favorably towards my side)

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..this wasnt even about pits influences to begin with, just saying he was originally a game character. and what do you mean the name kid icarus was taken? from what movie?

movie ? what are you talking about ? of course pit was originally a game character . i was only pointing out that the cartoon character "icarus" differs from the game character "pit" in name as well as many other characteristics . thus , pit and icarus (cartoon character) are just as distinctly independant characters as donkey kong and king kong are . am i making any sense yet ?
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« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2007, 09:59:17 PM »

yeah this went wayyyyyy off topic haha
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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2007, 09:59:32 PM »

yeah . i guess i had better split it .
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« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2007, 12:08:15 AM »

lol this is getting out of hand.. ok obviously they wouldnt make a game to just retell a myth.. so we'v a greed its a mix of angels and a bunch of greek references- medusa zeus icarus and lil bts of story, maybe more heavy on the angels/christian side, i dnt realy care that wasnt my point.

i think the character pit and the character kid icarus ARE the same because.. thats what captain N was about.. established nintendo game charcters. i think i get what youre trying to say:

  that since pit was changed to 'kid icarus' in captain N (lol and i think i argued us out on a tangent), and we dont know why hes called that (possibly for copyright issues? maybe a nickname? maybe an accident?) but it was clearly the same character. whereas the opposite happened with DK was, according to you, king kong to begin with, then became donkey kong (maybe for legality, maybe a nickname maybe by accident) but youre saying it was to avoid getting sued but it is the same character.

i see where youre coming from now which dissapoints me cos its not common knowledge why pit was called kid icarus or if dk WAS KK, but im just going to have to say i think DK was an inspiration of King Kong and Bluto or whatever hes called, as it is stated that miyamoto was a fan of popeye and got inspiration from there. so when the first DK game came around, regardless of who he was meant to be, a new character was born who wasnt King Kong, but an obvious look alike apart from size, colour and cartoonyness. pit on the other hand i think is the same character but was called kid icarus by accident or as his official nickname rather than legal issues.. my only backup there is i read somewhere official i think its on the wii shop channel it says his name is kid icarus or pit.
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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2008, 06:33:48 AM »

DK is different from King Kong.
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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2008, 07:32:54 AM »

dont bring this up again
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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2008, 07:46:22 AM »

DK is different from King Kong.

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2008, 07:46:43 AM »

dont bring this up again

yeah...after more than a month's experience...I don't want to bring up old topics anymore. Shall we?
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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2008, 08:07:17 AM »

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thanks for that rocky anyone else want to take a shot at smaspower kareoke(i dont know how to spell kareoke so dont judge)
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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2008, 08:19:50 AM »

thanks for that rocky anyone else want to take a shot at smaspower kareoke(i dont know how to spell kareoke so dont judge)

it's sad because it's actually a Filipino word...I hope you knew how it's spelled. It's KARAOKE.

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yeah...the chorus is all I could sing...the rest is just so hard...it's like one of the earliest raps.
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2008, 08:45:01 AM »

it's sad because it's actually a Filipino word...I hope you knew how it's spelled. It's KARAOKE.

karaoke is japanese , not filipino .
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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2008, 08:57:46 AM »

karaoke is japanese , not filipino .

actually...the inventor is a Filipino...just that...the word is Japanese...a little history is that the Philippines was taken in by the Japanese and during that occupation, the word was born. So yeah, I expected someone to bring that up, I should have said this sooner.
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