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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2008, 09:15:15 PM »

a comprmise would be possible , but the terms of a compromise would have to include the following :

a) a lesser penalty for occaisional no-shows .
b) a greater penalty for habitual no-shows .

the first one is for people who are not happy with the current system . the second one is for me , and a safeguard to ensure that the change results in less no-shows , and not more .

i consider 2 no-shows per month to be too many . so we could excuse a single no-show per month so long as we consider the second one to be habitual . according to the terms of the compromise , the penalty for 2 no-shows would have to be greater than the current penalty . i guess 2 loss points plus a 1 month tournament suspension would be ok .

like i said before , it's really a matter of numbers . suspending people from participating will only further lower participation as a whole on this website , which is the opposite of what i'm trying to accomplish . if this new system were to be put in place , it would have to prove it's effectiveness in improving tournament participation before i would commit the time to program it permanently .

to be honest , i really don't see anything wrong with the way things are now . the entire system operates on the honor system . that says

a) i will not lie about what matches i won or lost
b) i will not intentionally disconnect my machine when i think i'm going to lose
c) i will show up to the matches that i have agreed to show up to

aside from being about a week behind current stats , the leaderboard is an accurate representation of how well people are performing .

in the words of crusty the clown ,"95 percent of being successfull is showing up to work on time (sorry i'm 4 hours late)" . when you see that someone has a low rank , you will know that they are either piss poor at brawling , or piss poor at followng through with their commitments - both of which i believe should be viewed in the same light .

it doesn't matter how strong you are if you're too lazy to do any work . it doesn't matter how smart you are in the inside if you can't dress yourself and you have feces stains on your face , and it doesn't matter how good you are at smash bros in your spare time , when you can't even be bothered to show up for the fights that count toward your record .

lol, i agree that the honor system is fine, though id also be willing to try that compromise, if other people think it would help tournament participation. my belief is that, if a suspension system is applied, we'd lose the people who were already going to not show up, so i think it would help tourney organization. but i could be wrong about that, so whatever everyone else thinks about it is fine with me.
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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2008, 10:47:09 PM »

I just thought about this, but is there any way to incorporate things like second or third place into it?  If it's too much work or there isn't please disregard this, but I just thought of it.
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 04:02:16 AM »

did you have a formula in mind ? right now , 2nd , 3rd , and 4th place are incorporated only into final matches of each tournament , where the higher resolution is more important .
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2008, 07:26:30 AM »

I'll just say I don't sign up for a tournament unless I'm sure I can take part.

That way I don't annoy other people.

I'd suggest having these options available when creating tournaments:

* Results of tournament will affect your rank/leaderboard.
* Results of tournament will not affect your rank/leaderboard.

I don't know if this option is already available.
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2008, 08:58:00 AM »

yup . has always been available .
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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2008, 02:06:50 PM »

K so after reading this. im gunna go ahead and agree with everything Rocky has said. his logic seems like mine, the only reason i felt leaderboard was effecting anything was that some people are overreacting about their scores.
I mean look at Illz. 23 (or so) wins. DOES HE BRAG? no i dont think so, hes pretty much ideally what you would want to be.
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2008, 10:13:38 PM »

y not jsut create a ranking system
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2008, 11:14:51 PM »

If the  leaderboards are bothering someone to the point that they are stressing about tournies, then they should either:

A) Not join tournies
B)Request that they be dropped out of the leaderboards

I also agree with the idea of not being able to join tournies for a while if you repeatedly miss tournies. Almost every tourney I join I have an opponent who doesnt show up.
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2008, 06:31:32 AM »

I would like to see this leaderboard....


But kerp it, by all means.
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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2008, 06:38:54 AM »

http://www.smashpower.com/forums/index.php/topic,4135.0.html
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2008, 06:47:17 AM »

Thanks, bro.
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